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    2626be stated, along with the goal of providing sources for the PSF modeling.
    2727
     28** Added introductory sentences in 4.4.1 and expanded 'intial source
     29   detection' bullet in 4.1.
     30
    2831- Section 4.4.3: The purpose of the moments is to identify problematic
    2932sources and to measure Kron magnitudes. The importance of the Kron
     
    3336this for classification since it is typically a noisy measure.
    3437
     38** Added addtional explanation for the uses of the second and higher
     39   order moments in the introductory paragraph.  Added a note about
     40   star-galaxy separation when Kron magnitudes are first discussed.
     41   Also added a paragraph to describe the original motivation of the
     42   higher-order terms (identify collimation and alignment failures),
     43   but notes that this has not panned out as hoped.  Also added a
     44   short justification in section 4.6.5
     45
    3546- Section 5: The extended source photometry has not been motivated
    3647and it is unclear what the goals are for those objects.
     48
     49** added motivation in introduction of section 5.
    3750
    3851The text doesn't explain how in general bad (saturated, light traps,
     
    4558individual images.
    4659
    47 ** we do NOT interpolate or replace masked values; instead they are
     60** we do not interpolate or replace masked values; instead they are
    4861   ignored in model fits. their presence affects aperture-like
    49    measurements.  TBD
     62   measurements, and we rely on averaging (as mentioned) to overcome
     63   the masking.  We also provide the PSF_QF and PSF_QF_PERFECT values
     64   to assess the impact of masking on a specific source.  Text added
     65   to this effect in section 4.3
    5066
    5167The paper should identify which of these measurements and tabulated
     
    6177state the same for galaxy astrometry, fluxes and colors.
    6278
     79****
     80
    6381A detail of the code is presented (variable names, etc) that imply
    6482that the code would be publicly available. Is it, and if so where?
     83
     84** Added a link to the URL where the software can be downloaded
    6585
    6686The other PS1 papers are discussed in the introduction, but not
     
    7090- Sec 5.5, where the typical stellar detection limits are quoted
    7191
     92** Added reference to Paper I for this
     93
    7294- Sec 6, which of these averaged photometry measurements are used in
    7395the PS1 global photometry solution, and which papers demonstrate
    7496that the photometric goals are achieved
    7597
     98**** see note section Forced PSF Phot
     99
    76100- Sec 7, where the image differencing detections and photometry is used
     101
     102** Price & Magnier is cited, but this has not yet been submitted (not
     103   part of this series)
    77104
    78105A handful of places use lower-case "psf" (Table 2 and pg 13) and
    79106should be written "PSF" for consistency. "chi-square" is used
    80107both lower-case and upper-case.
     108
     109** Fixed these for consistency
    81110
    82111A number of places refer to starting guesses for ML minimizations
     
    84113to provide the formulae for these initializations (and potentially
    85114necessary if one were want to repeat the fits).
     115
     116** Added a discussion of the PSF parameter guesses in section 4.5.3,
     117   expanded discussion in section 5.3, referring back to 4.5.3.
    86118
    87119Although this paper is primarily meant to present the decisions made
     
    92124in one place would be a useful service.
    93125
     126**** TBD
     127
    94128Abstract:
    95129- This abstract states this is the version used for the "first public
     
    169203
    170204- "astrometric accuracy goal" -> "relative astrometric accuracy goal"
     205
    171206** fixed
    172207
    173208- "requirement" -> "goal" to be consistent with the text elsewhere
     209
    174210** fixed, and cleaned the introduction sentence of 'requirement' vs
    175 'goal' confusion.
     211   'goal' confusion.
    176212
    177213Sec 4:
     
    183219applying to bright sources, and another addessing all (==faint) sources.
    184220
    185 **** review this
     221**** TBD
    186222
    187223Sec 4.1:
     
    191227of Sec 4.8) that the PSF model for an image is actually selected.
    192228
    193 **** clarify this
     229**** TBD
    194230** The aperture correction is measured at the end of the bright-star
    195231** pass, at which point the PSF model is chosen and fixed.  A final
     
    228264measure is used.
    229265
    230 **** model?
     266**** TBD: model?
    231267
    232268Sec 4.4.1:
     
    253289that there are several?
    254290
    255 **** implementation looks for any key col between peaks that are
    256       above a threshold, thus the highest one matters. ADD TO TEXT
     291** noted in text and caption that the real paths are 2D, while the
     292   figure is a 1D illustration.  also noted that the code looks for
     293   any key col between peaks that are above a threshold, thus the
     294   highest one matters.
    257295
    258296Sec 4.4.3:
    259297- "sigma_PSF which different" -> "sigma_PSF, which is different"
     298
    260299** fixed
    261300
    262301- "and a trend this the" -- fix wording
     302
    263303** fixed
    264304
    265305- semi-colon should be period before "The sums"
     306
    266307** fixed
    267308
    268309- "be a large amount" -> "by a large amount"
     310
    269311** fixed
    270312
     
    276318for a typical exposure.
    277319
    278 **** SHOW SOME EXAMPLES of PSF variations
     320**** TBD: SHOW SOME EXAMPLES of PSF variations
    279321
    280322- Please state whether the PSF model is this set of formulae
    281323evaluated at the pixel centers, or must be integrated over the pixel,
    282324and the reason for the choice.
     325
    283326** @ pixel centers (added sentence)
    284327
     
    286329use is presumably "linear interpolation", but the details of this
    287330for PSF interpolation are worth describing.
     331
    288332** reworded to note that bi-linear interpolation in used
    289333
     
    299343metric would be the fraction of PS1 PSF stars are confirmed to be point
    300344sources by GAIA.
     345
    301346***** TBD
    302347
     
    306351in the text and Table 5. This can be tied back to the requested
    307352description of the expected PSF variations in Sec 4.5.1.
     353
    308354** adding in table in the the introductory text in section 4.5.1.
    309355
     
    313359as undefined measurements, or are they measured with the pixels first
    314360replaced based upon interpolation or linear prediction or some other method?
    315 **** TBD
     361
     362** We provide the PSF_QF and PSF_QF_PERFECT statistics to assess the
     363   impact of masking on the aperture-like measurements.  Added some
     364   additional explanation in section 4.5.3
    316365
    317366Sec 4.5.3:
    318367- "smf/cmf files" are not defined or referenced anywhere else in this paper.
    319 ** removed the jargon and replace with 'output FITS catalog files'
     368
     369** removed the jargon and replaced with 'output FITS catalog files'
    320370
    321371PSPS if referred to few enough instances (3) in the paper, that it could be
     
    323373isn't what many people would expect, so should be defined as public to
    324374the other code.
    325 **** TBD
     375
     376** By adding more explanation of the data products, we have added
     377   references to PSPS.  We have now added a new paragraph in the
     378   introduction to explain this subsystem and its relationship to the
     379   public releases more clearly.
    326380
    327381Sec 4.6.4:
    328382- "times" -> "\times"
     383
    329384** fixed
    330385
     
    338393- The term "size class" is only used once here, so perhaps only use
    339394the term "classification".
     395
    340396** reworded to make this clearer.
    341397
     
    343399- PSPHOT.EXT.NSIGMA.LIMIT is the only variable that looks like this
    344400in the paper, and isn't defined in the tables.
     401
    345402** we added an explanation at the end of Section 1 that the
    346 configuration variables, in fixed-width font, have the PV3 value
    347 listed after them in parenthesis.  We have also made the text more
    348 consistent about how this appears throughout the tex.
     403   configuration variables, in fixed-width font, have the PV3 value
     404   listed after them in parenthesis.  We have also made the text more
     405   consistent about how this appears throughout the tex.
    349406
    350407- Explicitly state that the cosmic ray identification is based upon
    351408sources appearing more morphologically compact than the PSF.
     409
    352410** done in 1st paragraph
    353411
     
    360418which are blended..." should be relegated to the end of the section,
    361419and presented as a future development effort.
     420
    362421**** TBD
    363422
    364423- Remind the reader that the 4 independent parameters includes a local sky
    365424value.
     425
    366426**** TBD: double-check if the sky is allowed to float in this step
    367427
    368428- "remaining flux should be below 1\sigma significance" ->
    369429"remaing flux divided by the errors should be normally distributed about 1"
     430
    370431** fixed wording
    371432
     
    375436were run showing this approach works for some separation and flux ratio
    376437range.
     438
    377439**** TDB: was the turned on for PV3?
    378440
     
    381443more fully described in another paper, a summary of those findings
    382444could be included here.
     445
    383446**** TBD: include detection limit description
    384447
     
    390453
    391454** The argument in the paragraph, that photometry using a large
    392 aperture can correct the PSF photometry, does not really depend on the
    393 stability of the wide wings as much on the small fraction of light in
    394 the wings.  Since we could not back up the statement about the source
    395 of the wide wings (and Saglia et al 1993 shows some variations in the
    396 wings of MDM 1.3 and JKT 1m data), we have removed that part of the
    397 argument and simplified that paragraph. A larger study of stellar
    398 profiles from PS1 on large scales would be interesting, but beyond the
    399 scope of this papper.
     455   aperture can correct the PSF photometry, does not really depend on
     456   the stability of the wide wings as much on the small fraction of
     457   light in the wings.  Since we could not back up the statement about
     458   the source of the wide wings (and Saglia et al 1993 shows some
     459   variations in the wings of MDM 1.3 and JKT 1m data), we have
     460   removed that part of the argument and simplified that paragraph. A
     461   larger study of stellar profiles from PS1 on large scales would be
     462   interesting, but beyond the scope of this papper.
    400463
    401464- "ApResid" is only sort of defined implicitly. 
    402465
    403466** The choice of PSF model form is actually made early on, after the
    404 first pass on bright stars (section 4.5).  The choice of the model is
    405 based on the psf - aperture (ApResid) residual scatter.  The discussion of the model
    406 selection at this point in the paper was an artifact of an attempt to
    407 consolidate the discussion of the aperture correction with the earlier
    408 aperture photometry.  We've fixed the text to leave the discussion of
    409 the selection of the PSF model form in section 4.5 and leave 4.8 to
    410 the calculation of the aperture correction for the photometry.  As a
    411 result, we eliminate the term ApResid entirely.
     467   first pass on bright stars (section 4.5).  The choice of the model
     468   is based on the psf - aperture (ApResid) residual scatter.  The
     469   discussion of the model selection at this point in the paper was an
     470   artifact of an attempt to consolidate the discussion of the
     471   aperture correction with the earlier aperture photometry.  We've
     472   fixed the text to leave the discussion of the selection of the PSF
     473   model form in section 4.5 and leave 4.8 to the calculation of the
     474   aperture correction for the photometry.  As a result, we eliminate
     475   the term ApResid entirely.
    412476
    413477- It's interesting that the choice of the PSF model is made based upon
     
    423487section 4.9, has the same PSF model class been automatically selected
    424488for all 18 images?
     489
    425490** This would be very interesting, but unfortunately we only used the
    426 single functional form PS1_V1 for all of the PV3 analysis.  We've
    427 added text to section 4.5 to state that explicitly.
     491   single functional form PS1_V1 for all of the PV3 analysis.  We've
     492   added text to section 4.5 to state that explicitly.
    428493
    429494Sec 4.9:
     
    435500be dominated by the PSF mis-estimation of bright stars rather than the
    436501atmospheric transparency variations.
     502
    437503**** TBD
    438504
    439505Sec 5:
    440506- "to all object" -> "to all objects"
     507
    441508** fixed
    442509
     
    447514Is this decision made for all sources within the same image, or is
    448515the decision made object-by-object?
    449 **** Draw a little picture?
    450 ** The avoidance contour approaches a constant Galactic
    451 latitude far from the galactic center, but rises in a Gaussian shape
    452 to avoid the bulge, with the max avoidance latitude of 35 degrees at Galactic
    453 longitude of 0.0. 
     516
     517** The avoidance contour approaches a constant Galactic latitude far
     518   from the galactic center, but rises in a Gaussian shape to avoid
     519   the bulge, with the max avoidance latitude of 35 degrees at
     520   Galactic longitude of 0.0.  We have added a small illustration of
     521   the cut, and noted that the cut is applied on an object-by-object
     522   basis.
    454523
    455524Sec 5.2:
     
    457526not that the surface brightness is conserved with distance, which of
    458527course it is not.
     528
    459529** right, fixed wording
    460530
     
    463533as those in the SDSS catalogs. Can one expect those quantities to
    464534compare well to those in the PS1 catalog?
    465 **** compare to SDSS
     535
     536**** TBD: compare to SDSS
    466537
    467538Sec 5.3:
    468539- Equn 28 is a blank line
     540
    469541** fixed
    470542
    471543- Equn 27 would conventionally be written after equns 29-32 as "with
    472544the definition f_p=..." (remove the word "simplify").
     545
    473546** re-written as suggested
    474547
    475548- "and/or" -> "or" ?
     549
    476550** fixed
    477551
    478552- "In the analysis, convolved galaxy fit..." -> "In the convolved galaxy fits..."
     553
    479554** fixed
    480555
    481556- Graham & Driver missing in the References
     557
    482558** fixed
    483559
    484560- For the approximation of the central pixel values, the maximum fractional
    485561error of this approximation should be stated.
    486 **** TBD
     562
     563**** TBD: model
    487564
    488565Sec 5.4:
     
    502579convolution. Since the median SDSS seeing is ~1.5 arcsec, those may
    503580be expected to compare well with the 1.5-arcsec convolved PS1 aperture fluxes.
     581
    504582** good point, we noted this in the text
    505583
    506584Sec 5.5:
    507585- State the seeing of these simulated images.
     586
    508587** added
    509588
     
    519598
    520599** We agree that the organization of this section could be improved,
    521 but we disagree a bit with the proposal.  We consider all of these
    522 analyses to be forced in that the fits are highly constrained by the
    523 stack priors, with their positions (for PSFs and the lensing anaysis)
    524 and most of the structural parameters fixed.  In the extended galaxy
    525 analysis, each of the grid steps is completely forced, just like in
    526 forced PSF photometry.  By using the term 'forced' to describe this
    527 process, we would like to make it clear that, for each grid position,
    528 the parameters (except normalization) are completely constrained.
     600   but we disagree a bit with the proposal.  We consider all of these
     601   analyses to be forced in that the fits are highly constrained by
     602   the stack priors, with their positions (for PSFs and the lensing
     603   anaysis) and most of the structural parameters fixed.  In the
     604   extended galaxy analysis, each of the grid steps is completely
     605   forced, just like in forced PSF photometry.  By using the term
     606   'forced' to describe this process, we would like to make it clear
     607   that, for each grid position, the parameters (except normalization)
     608   are completely constrained.
    529609
    530610We have renamed Section 6 as Forced Warp Analysis and split out the
     
    537617averaged forced photometry on stars and the averaged single-epoch fits
    538618for galaxies
     619
    539620** see previous
    540621
     
    544625for the mathematical appropriateness of image stacking, a nice recent
    545626discussion would be Zackay & Ofek 2016.
    546 ****
     627
     628**** TBD
    547629
    548630- The terms "skycell" and "warp image" are first used here without
     
    553635- For the forced photometry on single epoch images, is this a joint
    554636fit for overlapping objects?
     637
    555638** for the galaxy models, no.  The galaxy model fits are measured on
    556 each object with the other objects subtracted.  Text added to this
    557 effect in Section 6.1
     639   each object with the other objects subtracted.  Text added to this
     640   effect in Section 6.1
    558641
    559642Are overlapping galaxy models subtracted first?
     643
    560644** yes, see above.
    561645
    562646"The PSF model is fitted..." -> "The amplitude of the PSF model is fitted as the flux..."
     647
    563648** fixed the wording here and also clarified below that we measure
    564 Kron and aperture fluxes as well.
     649   Kron and aperture fluxes as well.
    565650
    566651Sec 6.2 (now 6.3):
     
    573658"interpolated PSF ellipticities" are confusing, when I *think* what's
    574659being used are "interpolated star ellipticities".
     660
    575661** reworded this to make the analysis clearer
    576662
     
    578664and if not, which code would it be most similar to?
    579665
     666**** TBD
     667
    580668- Define "KSB" and "HFK" references in-line
     669
     670** done
    581671
    582672- "ie,," -> "ie,"
    583673" absoluate" -> "absolute"
     674
    584675** fixed both
    585676
     
    590681If these questions are covered in other Pan-STARRS papers, please reference
    591682them here.
    592 ****
     683
     684** extended the background description, and referred to the previous
     685   work on asteroid and supernova detection within Pan-STARRS.
    593686
    594687- A basic piece of information that should be given is whether the differencing
    595688is performed on pairs of images, or single (warp) images compared to
    596689image stacks.
    597 ****
     690
     691** we generate difference images for warp pairs, warp-stack, and
     692   stack-stack.  Added this to the introductory paragraph in section 7
    598693
    599694- "model from is" -> "model is"
     695
    600696** fixed
    601697
    602698Conclusions:
    603699- The PS2 telescope is only mentioned here. At least give a reference.
     700
     701** added mention to Intro & added appropriate references
    604702
    605703Tables:
     
    608706as reference material, in which case the tables should be self-explanatory.
    609707
     708** Extended the table captions as requested.
     709
    610710Tables 2,3,4:
    611711- Please provide the names of these masks in the data products. From the
     
    613713to "mask2".
    614714
     715** added to the table.
     716
    615717Figures:
    616718- For all the multi-panel figures, typical style would be to label
    617719each of the sub-panels (a), (b), etc, and describe in the caption.
    618720
     721**** TBD: fixed for Figures 2, 5, 6 TBD: 8, 9, 10
     722
    619723Figure 2:
    620724- "window" in the figure text should be "\sigma_w" to be consistent
    621725with the caption and text.
     726
     727** fixed, and cleaned up the figure appearence a bit (font sizes)
    622728
    623729- For Figures 2,5,6, please do the mathematical calisthenics of stating
     
    626732these figures to threshold magnitudes as done for Figure 7.
    627733
     734** fixed for Figures 2, 5 & 6
     735
    628736Figure 3:
    629737- This figure isn't referenced in the text.
     738
     739** referenced in Section 4.5.1, second paragraph after list of model equations
     740
    630741- State if each point is a single pixel value.
     742
     743** added to caption
     744
    631745- State whether the black line model is part of the PSF models for these
    632746particular stars
     747
     748**** TBD: NEED to examine how figure was created
    633749
    634750Figure 4:
     
    636752denoted by a point.
    637753
     754**** TBD
     755
    638756Figures 5 and 6:
    639757- I can't find a definition of "STS" anywhere in the text.
     758
     759** reworded to remove the acronym
     760
    640761- Upper panels should be labeled "Number of stars".
     762
     763** fixed
    641764
    642765Figure 7:
    643766- Caption should specify the seeing of these images (not in the text either).
     767
     768**** TBD
    644769
    645770Figures 8 and 9:
     
    649774in the text. The other 4 panels could refer to the explanation in Sec 5.5.
    650775
     776**** TBD
     777
    651778References:
    652779- It would be helpful to append "[Paper I]", "[Paper II]", etc, to
    653780the references for this sequence of papers.
     781
     782** added
     783
    654784- It would be helpful to append "[KSB]" and "[HFK]" to those references
    655785since they are cited that way in the text.
     786
     787** done
     788
    656789- Some additional references should be included; some suggestions above.
    657790
     791**** TBD
     792
     793** Also, we have added Danny Farrow (UK Durham & MPIA) to the authors
     794   list for contributions related assessment of the galaxy model quality.
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