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Summary (Updated - AF 11/01/2012)
MOPS has reported some peculiar magnitudes in y-band MD data offsets and larger scatter compared to predictions of asteroid y-band magnitudes while the same comparison to 3PI photometry looks reasonable (both cases are photometry from the respective diffims). Also, have found photometry from Warp-Stack (WS) difference images for two sequential MD exposures unrealistically different by >0.5 mag.
Plot of average value for (observed - predicted) magnitudes per night for 3pi and MD detections in y-band.An offset in the MD data making objects ~0.4 mag brighter is seen.
Plot of average value for (observed - predicted) magnitudes per night for 3pi and MD detections in z-band. No offset is seen.
Example: MD10 sequential exposure pair, asteroid (12891) (Peter Vereš)
o6157g0218o o6157g0219o ra: 353.142622 ra: 353.142215 dec:-0.086658 dec: -0.086867
Chip/camera CAL_PSF_MAG photometry from the SMF catalogs below agree to what expected? yes, but can't be more exact because asteroid (12891) previously unstudied.
- o6157g0218o: 17.06
- o6157g0219o: 17.048
camera SMFs:
IPP_IDET CAL_PSF_MAG CAL_PSF_MAG_SIG PSF_INST_MAG PSF_INST_MAG_SIG AP_MAG PSF_MAJOR PSF_QF_PERFECT FLAGS FLAGS2 rsep(")
2384872506.gpc1:MD10.nt:2012:08:18:o6157g0218o.512581:o6157g0218o.512581.cm.524588.smf
300 17.0643 0.116127 -12.2008 0.0112583 -12.2431 6.2846 0.999136 102760453.0 128.0 0.11619639245
2384878611.gpc1:MD10.nt:2012:08:18:o6157g0219o.512582:o6157g0219o.512582.cm.524591.smf
353 17.0482 0.119598 -12.2145 0.0109578 -12.2215 6.29196 0.999138 102760453.0 128.0 0.0714361641958
WSdiff CMFs:
IPP_IDET CAL_PSF_MAG CAL_PSF_MAG_SIG PSF_INST_MAG PSF_INST_MAG_SIG AP_MAG PSF_MAJOR PSF_QF_PERFECT FLAGS FLAGS2 DIFF_NRATIO_BAD rsep (")
2385003229.gpc1:MD10.nightlyscience:2012:08:18:MD10.V3:skycell.052:MD10.V3.skycell.052.WS.dif.272923.cmf
180 17.1593 0.0 -12.1058 0.0549115 -12.0586 6.91519 0.999313 35651585.0 2177.0 0.586518 0.00506595268768
2385006586.gpc1:MD10.nightlyscience:2012:08:18:MD10.V3:skycell.052:MD10.V3.skycell.052.WS.dif.272924.cmf
143 16.5429 0.0 -12.7198 0.0508926 -12.0717 10.5122 0.998732 35651585.0 129.0 0.614977 0.00257287140
Manually rerunning WSdiffims with current ipp-20121026 tag (conv + unconv refstack):
Manually rerunning WSdiffims with tag ipp-20110622 that was active when photometry looked better last year (see example mag plot for TNO145452 below):
Example: MD09, TNO145452 (Alan Fitzsimmons)
TNO 145452
- a bit faint but its' the best one I've found so far, as it stays in the field for a long long time.
- in MD09 where we can predict the y magnitude should be within 0.1 mag of ~19.3 for the below observations
- a bunch of y-band exposures in 2011 and 2012.
- columns are Exp ID, MJD, RA, Dec.
2011: o5756g0570o 55756.592040 333.326857 +0.597387 o5756g0571o 55756.595015 333.326815 +0.597377 o5756g0572o 55756.597969 333.326774 +0.597368 o5756g0573o 55756.600918 333.326733 +0.597359 o5756g0574o 55756.603875 333.326692 +0.597350 o5756g0576o 55756.609792 333.326609 +0.597332 o5756g0577o 55756.612748 333.326568 +0.597323 o5757g0356o 55757.496424 333.314491 +0.594541 o5757g0357o 55757.499384 333.314449 +0.594532 o5757g0358o 55757.502357 333.314407 +0.594522 o5757g0359o 55757.505335 333.314365 +0.594513 o5757g0360o 55757.508292 333.314323 +0.594503 o5757g0361o 55757.511248 333.314281 +0.594494 o5757g0362o 55757.514208 333.314239 +0.594484 o5757g0363o 55757.517163 333.314197 +0.594475 o5766g0299o 55766.477073 333.180973 +0.559502 o5784g0173o 55784.507883 332.868350 +0.454736 o5784g0174o 55784.510828 332.868295 +0.454715 o5784g0175o 55784.513776 332.868239 +0.454695 o5784g0176o 55784.516717 332.868184 +0.454674 o5784g0177o 55784.519667 332.868128 +0.454654 o5784g0178o 55784.522608 332.868073 +0.454633 o5784g0180o 55784.528498 332.867962 +0.454592 (ending at 08-11-2011) 2012: (starting 06-29-2012) o6107g0064o 56107.597172 334.910525 +0.746688 o6107g0065o 56107.600110 334.910498 +0.746686 o6107g0066o 56107.603062 334.910470 +0.746684 o6107g0067o 56107.606006 334.910442 +0.746681 o6107g0068o 56107.608993 334.910414 +0.746679 o6201g0056o 56201.242691 333.383584 +0.125386 o6201g0057o 56201.245657 333.383540 +0.125358 o6201g0058o 56201.248616 333.383497 +0.125330
This is the best example in the database because of the density of measurements and the known small amplitude of any lightcurve. In warp-warp diffs the slow motion will mean that 3PI and OSS measurements would be incorrect due to self-subtraction of the flux. But this should not only occur in MD fields as MOPS is being fed warp-stack measurements, and it would make the object fainter not brighter as seen. The variation in z-band and in other filters in 2012 is also puzzling.
Plot of observed magnitudes converted to V (top), and residual of magnitude (observed - predicted), in 2011 and 2012:
(Key: g=green, r=red,i=orange,z=purple,y=cyan)
Example: MD01, MBA 131130 (Alan Fitzsimmons)
This is a nice example of the offset plus large scatter in y-band for a Main Belt Asteroid seen this year.
o6169g0184o 36.353429 -4.350323 o6169g0185o 36.353441 -4.350616 o6170g0586o 36.360948 -4.446235 o6170g0588o 36.360938 -4.446831 o6170g0590o 36.360927 -4.447427 o6170g0591o 36.360922 -4.447725 o6170g0593o 36.360911 -4.448320 o6171g0613o 36.362699 -4.549196 o6171g0614o 36.362676 -4.549499 o6171g0616o 36.362631 -4.550103 o6171g0617o 36.362608 -4.550406 o6171g0619o 36.362562 -4.551012 o6172g0677o 36.358383 -4.654112 o6172g0682o 36.358181 -4.655647 o6172g0683o 36.358141 -4.655956 o6172g0684o 36.358101 -4.656264
Plot of observed magnitudes converted to V (top), and residual of magnitude (observed - predicted) in 2012. The large gap in the data was caused by telescope shutdown due to rotator problems.
(Key: g=green, r=red,i=orange,z=purple,y=cyan)
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lightcurve of 145452 in MD09
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131130 lightcurve in MD01
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mean y-band (O-C)
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Mean z-band (O-C)
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